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	<title>Comments on: DAZ Studio &gt; Poser</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/2009/07/10/daz-studio-poser/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Now, if I can just figure out how to write a Poser addon that reads my Studio content db…. :)
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Which I&#039;ve now done... :D</description>
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Now, if I can just figure out how to write a Poser addon that reads my Studio content db…. <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p>Which I&#8217;ve now done&#8230; <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/2009/07/10/daz-studio-poser/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds so familiar :(

I do have to say that Poser 8 is a HUGE improvement, both in the UI and stability.  The new content library is a bit... meh, but if like me you&#039;re happy with your existing content it certainly makes the choice between Poser and Studio a lot more difficult.  The only real thing I miss in P8 is my nice organised content database from Studio, but the favorites tab helps out there.  Now, if I can just figure out how to write a Poser addon that reads my Studio content db.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds so familiar <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do have to say that Poser 8 is a HUGE improvement, both in the UI and stability.  The new content library is a bit&#8230; meh, but if like me you&#8217;re happy with your existing content it certainly makes the choice between Poser and Studio a lot more difficult.  The only real thing I miss in P8 is my nice organised content database from Studio, but the favorites tab helps out there.  Now, if I can just figure out how to write a Poser addon that reads my Studio content db&#8230;. <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dasque</title>
		<link>http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/2009/07/10/daz-studio-poser/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Dasque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this when I was actually searching for a way to use Poser&#039;s render engine on a DAZ creation.  My reasoning: I would rather go do that amount of trouble than use Poser by itself.

In Poser my work usually goes something like this:

1. Start Poser
2. Load figure
3. Angle camera
4. Go make sandwich while waiting for camera to decide what it&#039;s looking at
5. Restart after crash
6. Load figure
7. Dress figure
8. Restart after crash
9. Steps 1-7
10. Cloth room
11. Restart after crash

You see what I mean.  

The ONLY strength Poser has over DAZ is it&#039;s render engine, which unfortunately, good enough for me to keep trying with the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this when I was actually searching for a way to use Poser&#8217;s render engine on a DAZ creation.  My reasoning: I would rather go do that amount of trouble than use Poser by itself.</p>
<p>In Poser my work usually goes something like this:</p>
<p>1. Start Poser<br />
2. Load figure<br />
3. Angle camera<br />
4. Go make sandwich while waiting for camera to decide what it&#8217;s looking at<br />
5. Restart after crash<br />
6. Load figure<br />
7. Dress figure<br />
8. Restart after crash<br />
9. Steps 1-7<br />
10. Cloth room<br />
11. Restart after crash</p>
<p>You see what I mean.  </p>
<p>The ONLY strength Poser has over DAZ is it&#8217;s render engine, which unfortunately, good enough for me to keep trying with the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Whispers of R&#8217;lyeh &#187; I Bought Poser 8&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whispers of R&#8217;lyeh &#187; I Bought Poser 8&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] everything I said against Poser before, I took one look at the screenshots of the new Poser 8 UI and was sold.  Obviously if it turned [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/2009/07/10/daz-studio-poser/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, someone actually read what I was writing.  The value of that far outweighs the fact that it shot down everything I said :D

On the WordPerfect argument, I know people who say vi is by far the best option for editing text files.  That may be true for the 1% of people who edit text files that actually *know* vi, but for the other 99% of us the best option is something that has menus and doesn&#039;t require us to know what the keyboard shortcuts are ;)

Yes, I&#039;m heavily biased towards DAZ Studio.  It lets me do what I want to do as one of the majority who are still learning about this stuff.  I just see that as a counter to the heavily-biased longtime Poser users who keep telling everyone the answer to their problem is to jump ship.  Personally I&#039;ll choose the new, experimental, unfinished option over the slow, clunky proven one and wait for the designers to fill in the missing parts by the time I need them.  Obviously that isn&#039;t the answer for people who are already using those advanced features in Poser.

Currently, the only thing I&#039;m unhappy with in DAZ Studio is the lighting, and that&#039;s more a problem of me having to learn how to do it properly.  In the future, my next hurdle will be the lack of an assembly room, but I reckon the Figure Setup Tools should tide me over.  I&#039;d like to be able to pin limbs in position in global space too, but I think I&#039;m close to having a handle on that by the time it becomes more than a minor irritation.

Oh, and sorry, but when Poser 7 can&#039;t keep up with what I&#039;m doing when I manipulate a single figure with no props on a three-month old quad core machine with 4GB of RAM I figure it isn&#039;t my PC thats the problem.  It looks like the programmers were more concerned with drawing a pretty custom UI than a fast, usable one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, someone actually read what I was writing.  The value of that far outweighs the fact that it shot down everything I said <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the WordPerfect argument, I know people who say vi is by far the best option for editing text files.  That may be true for the 1% of people who edit text files that actually *know* vi, but for the other 99% of us the best option is something that has menus and doesn&#8217;t require us to know what the keyboard shortcuts are <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m heavily biased towards DAZ Studio.  It lets me do what I want to do as one of the majority who are still learning about this stuff.  I just see that as a counter to the heavily-biased longtime Poser users who keep telling everyone the answer to their problem is to jump ship.  Personally I&#8217;ll choose the new, experimental, unfinished option over the slow, clunky proven one and wait for the designers to fill in the missing parts by the time I need them.  Obviously that isn&#8217;t the answer for people who are already using those advanced features in Poser.</p>
<p>Currently, the only thing I&#8217;m unhappy with in DAZ Studio is the lighting, and that&#8217;s more a problem of me having to learn how to do it properly.  In the future, my next hurdle will be the lack of an assembly room, but I reckon the Figure Setup Tools should tide me over.  I&#8217;d like to be able to pin limbs in position in global space too, but I think I&#8217;m close to having a handle on that by the time it becomes more than a minor irritation.</p>
<p>Oh, and sorry, but when Poser 7 can&#8217;t keep up with what I&#8217;m doing when I manipulate a single figure with no props on a three-month old quad core machine with 4GB of RAM I figure it isn&#8217;t my PC thats the problem.  It looks like the programmers were more concerned with drawing a pretty custom UI than a fast, usable one.</p>
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		<title>By: rainwebs</title>
		<link>http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/2009/07/10/daz-studio-poser/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>rainwebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW: WordPerfect users still tell us that the concept behind it is by far the best concept to write documents ;-). Could be.

For Poser vs. DAZ. Your post is not correct in describing what it will cost to get a Poser-like feature set with DS. You&#039;ll pay more. On the other had there are AniMate and other ideas I can&#039;t get with Poser today. 

So, you can&#039;t compare the basic DS with Poser. That&#039;s not fair. And I can&#039;t recognize that the rendering result are better because they have an industry standard compatible (how many percent?) renderer. All the images I have seen so far were not better than with Poser, but a lot were much worser (maybe because of the limited functions of the basic DS).

I&#039;m looking at every release of DS, but I&#039;m still waiting for the functionality that beats what Poser delivers. Then I also would accept to use this ugly user interface. Did you have a look at Poser 7? The interface is fast, the rendering is fast. Ok you need the right hardware, maybe that&#039;s the problem with your biased comparison here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW: WordPerfect users still tell us that the concept behind it is by far the best concept to write documents <img src='http://warpedcore.net/rlyeh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Could be.</p>
<p>For Poser vs. DAZ. Your post is not correct in describing what it will cost to get a Poser-like feature set with DS. You&#8217;ll pay more. On the other had there are AniMate and other ideas I can&#8217;t get with Poser today. </p>
<p>So, you can&#8217;t compare the basic DS with Poser. That&#8217;s not fair. And I can&#8217;t recognize that the rendering result are better because they have an industry standard compatible (how many percent?) renderer. All the images I have seen so far were not better than with Poser, but a lot were much worser (maybe because of the limited functions of the basic DS).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at every release of DS, but I&#8217;m still waiting for the functionality that beats what Poser delivers. Then I also would accept to use this ugly user interface. Did you have a look at Poser 7? The interface is fast, the rendering is fast. Ok you need the right hardware, maybe that&#8217;s the problem with your biased comparison here.</p>
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